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(→‎Obtain 8F: Tried to write yet another section. Please feel free to trim information so that it's not a wall of text (although I do prefer if there is some place to easily find the information).)
(→‎Obtain 8F: Fixed the misconception about depositing a Key item with quantity more than one.)
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# '''Scroll down to the 35th item in your expanded item pack. It should be 8F.'''<br />[[File:Missing_image.jpg]] (TODO: Add screenshot)
# '''Scroll down to the 35th item in your expanded item pack. It should be 8F.'''<br />[[File:Missing_image.jpg]] (TODO: Add screenshot)
#* {{color|gray|Side note: The 35th item corresponds to your X coordinate on the current map (i.e. it decreases as you go left, and increases as you go right, as long as you don't leave the current map). This location is on the Route 20 map, which is the single widest map in the game, allowing you to obtain many useful items this way.}}
#* {{color|gray|Side note: The 35th item corresponds to your X coordinate on the current map (i.e. it decreases as you go left, and increases as you go right, as long as you don't leave the current map). This location is on the Route 20 map, which is the single widest map in the game, allowing you to obtain many useful items this way.}}
# '''Swap this item with a useless item in your main inventory.''' (The ×0 stack at the top of your inventory you've just created in the previous section should work fine: You should have at least two ×255 stacks of the same item below, which duplicated themselves so that you will never run out.)
# '''Swap this item with a useless item in your main inventory.''' (The ×0 stack at the top of your inventory you've just created in the previous section should work fine: You should have at least two ×255 stacks of the same item below, which can duplicate themselves if you somehow need more.)
# '''Immediately Fly away.'''
# '''Immediately Fly away.'''
#* {{color|gray|Side note: By swapping the 35th item, you have corrupted your X coordinate, so trying to move around on the map may have unexpected and confusing effects. Depending on which item you swapped it may be possible to leave the map by Surfing and/or walking, but the safest option is to just Fly away. There is a technique named the [[Celadon looping map trick]] which makes use of such a X coordinate corruption to obtain items with too large an internal ID to be obtained on Route 20, but you won't really have a need for that since once you set up ACE you can obtain any item more easily.}}
#* {{color|gray|Side note: By swapping the 35th item, you have corrupted your X coordinate, so trying to move around on the map may have unexpected and confusing effects. Depending on which item you swapped it may be possible to leave the map by Surfing and/or walking, but the safest option is to just Fly away. There is a technique named the [[Celadon looping map trick]] which makes use of such a X coordinate corruption to obtain items with too large an internal ID to be obtained on Route 20, but you won't really have a need for that since once you set up ACE you can obtain any item more easily.}}
# '''Deposit 8F into your PC.''' For simplicity and safety, we will only be using it after fixing our item pack.
# '''Deposit 8F into your PC.''' For simplicity and safety, we will only be using it after fixing our item pack.
#* If you did the previous steps correctly, you will notice that you still have 8F in your item pack. This is normal: The 8F you swapped into your main inventory is actually a stack of 8F ×0 (even though you cannot see the quantity because 8F is a Key item), which is equivalent to ×256, meaning that you can deposit 1 and still have ×255. Just treat the 8F remaining in your item pack as a useless item.
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# Optionally, repeat the previous steps, but with these other locations, to obtain some other potentially hard-to-obtain items. You will get a ×0 stack of each, which is equivalent to ×256, in the sense that you can use/sell/deposit 1 from the stack and have 255 left. Ideally, don't use/sell/deposit the whole stack to avoid decreasing the item count.<br />[[File:Missing_image.jpg]] (TODO: Add screenshot) (PP Up; Rare Candy to level up Tentacool?; Something to sell for money?)
#** If this doesn't happen, that is fine too. That means that you obtained 8F ×1 instead of 8F ×0, probably because your Y coordinate was different from the screenshot. You would need to buy one more item to fix your item pack later.
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# '''Buy any three cheap items (that you don't already have in your main inventory)''' to fix the item pack. The first two items you buy will be lost, and the third should become the first and only item in your main inventory, with a proper Cancel button below it.
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# Optionally, repeat the previous steps, but with these other locations, to obtain some other potentially hard-to-obtain items. You will get a ×0 stack of each (equivalent to ×256). Ideally, don't use/sell/deposit the whole stack to avoid decreasing the item count.<br />[[File:Missing_image.jpg]] (TODO: Add screenshot) (PP Up; Rare Candy to level up Tentacool?; Something to sell for money?)
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# '''Buy any two cheap items (that you don't already have in your main inventory)''' to fix the item pack. The first item you buy will be lost, and the second should become the first and only item in your main inventory, with a proper Cancel button below it.
#* Withdrawing useless items from the PC will also work if that's more convenient.
#* Withdrawing useless items from the PC will also work if that's more convenient.
#* If the third item bought don't appear as the first item in your inventory, keep buying cheap items until the item pack is fixed.
#* If the second item bought doesn't appear as the first item in your inventory, keep buying cheap items until the item pack is fixed.
#** {{color|gray|Side note: After depositing 8F, your item count would become 254 (in other words, -2), so you would need three items to increase your item count back to 1. If you have unnecessarily decreased your item count by using/selling/depositing a whole stack of items, your item count would be lower, so you would need to buy more items in this step. (Depositing 8F necessarily decreases the item count since it's a Key item.)}}
#** {{color|gray|Side note: If you have been following everything perfectly, your item count would remain 255 (in other words, -1) after you got the expanded item pack, so you would need two items to increase your item count back to 1. If you have unnecessarily decreased your item count by using/selling/depositing a whole stack of items, your item count would be lower, so you would need to buy more items in this step.}}
#** {{color|gray|Side note: The first and second items you buy will occupy item slots 255–256, which are near the end of the list <code>wWarpEntries</code> (overlapping list entries 27–28). This should be safe as no shop in the game has that many warps.}}
#** {{color|gray|Side note: The first item you buy will occupy item slot 256, which are near the end of the list <code>wWarpEntries</code> (in the middle of list entry 28). This should be safe as no shop in the game has that many warps. Even if you have accidentally decreased your item count a few times, the items you buy should still be close to the bottom of <code>wWarpEntries</code> and remain safe.}}
#** {{color|gray|Side note: Don't worry about the cheap item existing in your ''expanded'' inventory, as the game will not look past the Cancel button when trying to find an existing stack of that item.}}
#** {{color|gray|Side note: Don't worry about the cheap item existing in your ''expanded'' inventory, as the game will not look past the Cancel button when trying to find an existing stack of that item.}}


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